Comments on: Continuing Anger Over Silver Ravenwolf

By: Toph

Toph — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 07:18:44 +0000

Do you really think that the average Christian is at fault? Do you even know any Christians? Seriously, do you? The fact that you call me “old” tells me all I need to know. You have as much hate in your heart as some Christians do.

I don’t think the God of the Bible is great, personally, but do you really think you yourself are exuding the virtues of the Goddess?

Why are you so angry? Who hurt you?

By: TIA MARIE

TIA MARIE — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 22:40:01 +0000

YES. By your logic, as long as someone is not mean to you specifically, they are a good person? By your logic, I should condemn the leaders of the religion, but not the individuals that put them in power, keep them in power, and protect them from legal punishment for their abuse of power AND their unlawful actions? That’s ridiculously naive. My dislike for the religious comes from the hateful deity they choose to worship and the concepts their deity has ordered them to perpetuate. You wouldn’t “condemn your neighbor” just because they give you free food, but that same neighbor would kill you for being a non-believer and witch if they thought that’s what their deity wanted (the Bible is VERY clear about witchcraft and how to treat witches). You are too old for me to have to tell you this, but just because someone is nice to you, or does good deeds, that does NOT make them a good person. Even child rapists do volunteer work, so that’s a very flimsy measurement for morality. It’s nice to know your morality is so skewed you can be bought with a few smiles & canned goods. I will not assume that just because someone is nice to me in particular, that makes them a good person. I will, however, come to the educated conclusion that if they are choosing to follow a religion with such an awful figurehead, that they are people who cannot make good choices, and therefore cannot be trusted to know what a good person even looks like (at the very least)

By: Topher James Hollis

Topher James Hollis — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 21:26:45 +0000

Tia Marie: Is it really necessary to be such a condescending bitch? Condemn the church leaders who spread those messages. Condemn the groups that invade Pagan gatherings to protest. Condemn the televangelists, the politicians, the Christian nationalists. Why condemn your neighbor who has done you no injury? Does that not make you as prejudiced and bigoted as so many of them?

You know what the church nearest me does? They give away free food. Often. They go to places where people gather, they don’t make needy people come to them. They don’t demand church attendance or an audience for a lecture, they just hand over the food. Shall I condemn them?

By: TIA MARIE

TIA MARIE — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 13:06:58 +0000

For some reason it will not let me reply directly, so I will just write it here.
REPLY TO TOPH
IF you knew anything about religion, especially Christianity and Catholicism, you would know they consider anyone in any other religion or no religion at all, as “witches” or “devil worshippers.” If you had even been to church, you would hear them call the gods of Hinduism “demons” and condemn Islam, even though it is an Abrahamic religion. So it honestly doesn’t matter if all the people that died in the Crusades were not all witches, they were labeled as such and killed right alongside the real witches. In the eyes of their persecutors, they were witches. You say that everyone has the freedom to practice what religion they choose. That does not mean they are above reproach or criticism. If someone wants to worship an evil deity such as the God of the Bible, then they should rightfully be judged or criticized for that choice. You have a very selfish mindset if you feel like something has to happen to you directly in order for it to be “your business.” Those are the worst kinds of people, ones who will allow atrocities to continue because it’s not directly affecting them. It’s akin to America’s approach to the Holocaust, and an immoral way of thinking. I, on the other hand, do not need someone to hurt me directly to condemn them for how they treat others. You are not special, if they did it to someone else, they most certainly will do it to you. And lastly, I never said that Silver Ravenwolf changed the world, I said she suffered and spoke out so that people like you can speak freely about witchcraft without being killed. Even if witches are still persecuted in some countries, that number is WAY LESS than it was even 50 years ago, because of people like Ravenwolf who were not afraid to rightfully and bravely condemn Christianity at a time when no one else would call out their bullshit.

By: Morgan Oviatt

Morgan Oviatt — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 04:49:14 +0000

This feels like a slightly biased reason to insult people.
So if you are her son, that makes you Cadmium Raven-Symone Cub? Not calling names, just clarifying. So are you upset mommy isn’t sharing the money fast enough? You came in angry, so that feels like a natural assumption. But if that is true, then…Looking to get into Necromancy for all the right reasons to raise a family? I want you calm. I want you rational. I want you in an open state for the universe in it’s many forms to reach open ears. You seem to think that because millions of people love Mommy that the author should too, but then you simply have to like Mao Tse Tung, Reverend Moon, Trump, and Manson under that logic. See how that seems weird if you don’t love them too? I believe in you! I give the energy needed to read critically.
BTW, what is a “hobby person” and how does it make them feel to be called such?

By: Amanda Oviatt

Amanda Oviatt — Tue, 31 Oct 2023 09:18:04 +0000

Ravenwolf always felt like a Osteen in a pointy hat. Using a religion they are not part of…to shill those who are. Even the name feels truly fake.

By: Far Voyager

Far Voyager — Wed, 21 Jun 2023 15:20:20 +0000

I came here from a site that discuss her works not related to Wicca or Neopaganism for that matter, and Gods it’s worse than what it seemed at first. It does not help matters either the language she uses, even if I understand this was written down with teenagers in sight instead of adults.

By: Toph

Toph — Sat, 02 Jul 2022 20:01:50 +0000

You’re right, I did have my events confused, and millions of people did die in the Cursades over several centuries. However, there’s still one important fact to keep in mind: Those millions of people were not witches, for the most part.

I happen to agree that Christianity is an awful religion, but I would be a hypocrite if I didn’t say that everybody else has the same freedom of religion as I do. Unless an individual does something to personally slight me, it’s not my business what they believe.

I really don’t give a shit what $ilver endured; she’s hardly the only one. That doesn’t excuse her false teachings or behavior. What I condemn is when people do “nice things,” sometimes against others’ will, and then hold it against them when they do something shitty.

By the way, Pagans and witches are still facing persecution, even in first-world countries, never mind the countries where it’s a crime punishable by death. She didn’t save the world, lady.

By: Tia Marie

Tia Marie — Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:23:38 +0000

You are confusing the Spanish inquisition with the Crusades, where MILLIONS did die. And I am condemning the entire religion and anyone who follows it, because if you can read both Bibles and the history of Christianity, and still decide that it’s a religion you want to follow, you are a fucked up individual. I don’t have to judge a Christian off the past, I judge them off their current CHOICES, which is what you should do.

And the website may be about Wicca, but this post is about shitting on Silver Ravenwolf, a woman who endured more than you ever will when it comes to being a witch, so you didn’t have to.

By: Toph

Toph — Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:08:57 +0000

You are hopeless. You seem to have no reading comprehension ability, or else you’re being disingenuous

We are on a website about Wicca, discussing books that are supposed to be about Wicca. Why should we not be talking about fucking Wicca?

Again, I am not a Christian and don’t give a flying fuck about them or what they might do. Do I think being a Christian and a witch makes much sense? Not really, but I’m not going to waste my time brooding over it.

It’s no secret that the Church committed horrible acts in the past. Everybody did, including our Pagan ancestors. You seem to think that justifies hating the average Christian in the present day, which is a weirdly Christian thing to think, that it’s right and just to punish the son for the sins of the father.

$ilver’s books do in fact teach a false history. Nine million people did not die in the Inquisition – there weren’t even nine million people in 1000 CE – Wicca is not the oldest religion, and most of the people who died in the Inquisition and the Crusades weren’t witches, even if they were accused of such. The crime was heresy, which means having an opposing opinion from the established orthodoxy. That could mean A LOT of things.

How did I backtrack on Satanism? Because I said that LaVeyans don’t believe in a literal entity called Satan? That’s just a fucking fact.

Somebody has their head up their ass here, but it isn’t me. If you’ve really been at this for twenty years and still have this nasty attitude and loose grip on reality, you have more problems than I can help you with.